Blog and Forum automatic submission scripts

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A note to the spammers and potential spammers that come across this: if comment spam is so effective in boosting search engine rankings, then why is this blog entry so much better ranked than the submission scripts are? You’d think that if they were even a little bit effective the makers of the tools would be able to get a better ranking than I have.

Spammers are buying ever-more sophisticated tools to facilitate their comment spamming. These tools can find comment scripts, bypass many protection measures, and submit comments with alarming speed.

Perhaps we could make a dent in the comment spam by attacking these tools. Find shareware and “webmaster script” sites where these tools are sold, distributed, and marketed and get them shut down. A search for “blog submission scripts” will turn up lots of links to products (and now, I’m sure, this blog entry) that are designed to spam comments. Track these down, contact the places they’re marketed, like share*it and for the software to be removed from their catalogs.

After finding a spam package that’s being sold on share*it, I contacted them about removing it. I’ve removed the names and links to the product, because I don’t want to make it any easier for spammers to find products like this.

One of the pieces of software sold on your site is designed to spam weblog comments and message boards. Product ID [removed] is described and marketed as a blog spamming tool at [removed] Please don’t continue to add to the spam problem, and remove this product from your service.

If bloggers are powerful enough to take down a TV news anchor, I’d imagine that a concerted effort to choke off distribution sources would be successful as well.

Richard@Home
December 18, 2004 7:24 AM

I've been having a running battle with a software vendor that sells spamming software. Here are the results: http://richardathome.no-ip.com/index.php?article_id=338 (I got your SEO right here) On a related note, I'm working on some code to stop (or at least drastically reduce referral spam: http://richardathome.no-ip.com/index.php?article_id=406 They really are spoiling the blogging experiance aren't they? :-(

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December 18, 2004 7:42 AM

Blog and Forum automatic submission scripts

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Adam Kalsey
December 18, 2004 9:53 AM

I don't know if it's used against email spamming tools. I know that many of the email spam tools are sold via spam, but I haven't looked into the distribution systems for those products. But it seems to be effective against blogspam tools: https://www.regsoft.net/regsoft/vieworderpage.php3?productid=65447 There's another site that's pulled down this software, but on the page that tells you the software's been pulled, they link to the developer's site, so I won't be posting a link to that here.

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December 18, 2004 4:30 PM

Blog Spam

Excerpt: Adam Kalsay's most recent post relates to blog spam and the tools that are sold and distributed to make it so easy to bombard blogs with tons of the garbage. He makes a good point: ... if comment spam is so effective in boosting search engine ranki...

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December 18, 2004 6:30 PM

Solving the Spam Problem

Excerpt: Adam Kalsey has a piece on comment spam advocating attacking the tools used to send spam. His idea is that if you make spam tools harder to purchase or download, there will be less overall spamming done. This is akin to non-competitive enzyme inhibit...

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December 18, 2004 7:14 PM

Adam Kalsey On Comment Spam

Excerpt: Blog and Forum automatic submission scripts :: Adam Kalsey I agree with him completely on this one. I think that in addition to technological solutions, the power of social ones like peer pressure can be harnessed as a potent force...

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December 19, 2004 4:56 AM

spam tool merchants

Excerpt: Blog and Forum automatic submission scripts :: Adam Kalsey (an anti-spam idea)

Chloe
December 19, 2004 5:42 AM

Does Google co-operate? I mean, they pander to others, right? Their system isn't completely automatic. Why can't they nerf the Google-ranking of spam fueled merchants and spam tool merchants? Or is that already happening? And if so, why isn't it helping? Or is it? Also, I was wondering why, if bloggers could organize boycotts, organize protest campaigns, influence news reporting... Why can't bloggers get the word out to the customers of these merchants? I mean, beyond the so-called "blogosphere" - where we already know not to buy that crap. I've often thought the only thing that will really deter spamming is to go at the supply & demand angle. Who buys this crap? Do they now what's going on? Do they care? If they did would they stop? Can we reach them? That sort of thing. It seems to me that there's never been much in the ways of reaching the public at large about the real costs of spam upon everyone. It's like we're all preachin' to the choir mostly. Though I do what I can to inform people I know. But how many people are going to believe just little old me? Why isn't there more official reporting on this? Because I really don't think most people, who aren't bloggers for example, know much about this stuff. Or am I just whistlin' Dixie here with my notions?

Spondoo
February 22, 2005 9:36 AM

I agree. I feel that this has affected not only mine, but also many of my associates web presence. We provide web services to both administrators and the general surfer. Currently providing methods of protecting users information and identity, we a looking into preventing this sort of violation of service.

Pascal
March 20, 2005 11:43 PM

Please don't think blogsites are the only affected ones or that public statistics are required. Now TOS violations apparently only work at certain levels of server service... After all hosts need the money, but that is not the only thing ... Were we to take every piece of TOS seriously, then just about every site violates TOS in at least one way, except perhaps the page with a picture of tom that says 'Hi, I am Tom' and nothing else. But yes, Google co-operates as do smaller engines and directories because this sort of garbage pollutes our results, and an engine with polluted results stands to lose a LOT of traffic because ... d@mn this makes me angry ... Because people are NOT stupid and even when a spammer is actually succesful and their stupid spamsite shows up as number one in the results, visitors soon figure it out and it will be a long time before anyone clicks THAT link again ... So spammers shoot themselves in the foot with their own methods, yet they are too moronically stupid to figure out even this elementary tidbit. Even after we ban them, even after ALL their domains are rather permanently embedded in every worldwide antispam database and blacklist, even then most still go on, and on, and on with their sick methods, as if! Meanwhile, the only other folk who lose (in addition to the spammer) are the affected sites because visitors don't stick around spammed out places too long, and that's the part makes me so furious. A sledgehammer to the spammer's pc would make my day, lol. Peace out. Pascal

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Srinath
January 17, 2006 1:19 AM

Well even my blogs has been spammed recently and it totally sucks !

hogg
February 3, 2006 6:28 AM

peoples don’t want to make it any easier for spammers to find products like this.

charles kirkland
May 3, 2006 11:21 AM

Adam Dose the spam software use the user's ip or does it come from the software makers ip. Is it any way to ban them via IP address. Could we just create a database of ip to block Thanks Charles Kirkland coastal home designs

Adam Kalsey
May 3, 2006 11:33 AM

You might want to read why IP banning doesn't work for comment spam prevention: http://kalsey.com/2004/02/why_ip_banning_is_useless/

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